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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-29, 10:35 pm

Who's the better PLAYER? This is an individual player debate, so the amount of championships rings should not play a factor...

IMO, LeBron is better...I'll post my reasoning later...
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Post by y0ungg_m0ney 2009-09-29, 10:42 pm

Kobe

LeBron could drive the ball in better but his jumpshot is really iffy and his free-throws i wouldn't rely on . Kobe on the other hand could get to the basket, not as easy as LeBron but still pretty good . his jumpshot is alot better . freethrows are alot better . and you can't lie . Kobe probably has the highest basketball IQ in the game right now. and defensively . its not even close . Kobe is like a glove on defense
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 10:44 pm

kobe scoring>>>>>

kobe free throw %>>>>

kobe defensive>>>>

kobe basketball IQ>>>>

kobe leadership>>>>>

theres no debate(im not voting because i feel its disrespectful to kobe lol)
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Post by y0ungg_m0ney 2009-09-29, 10:46 pm

oh and kobe is more clutch
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-29, 10:46 pm

I'm gonna be making my arguments in short spurts...

Look at their age, and look at the numbers...

Compare Kobe at 18 to LeBron at 18 and so on, until now...


And look at the numbers currently, and realize that LeBron is 6 years younger than Kobe also with better numbers...
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 10:49 pm

TheFuture23 wrote:I'm gonna be making my arguments in short spurts...

Look at their age, and look at the numbers...

Compare Kobe at 18 to LeBron at 18 and so on, until now...


And look at the numbers currently, and realize that LeBron is 6 years younger than Kobe also with better numbers...

theres several niggas who started their careers better than kobe....its not about how you start...its about what you accomplish and how you finish
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-29, 11:01 pm

well look at their numbers now....

LeBron is better in every major statistical category...

and the Lakers are nothing w/o Gasol btw...
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Post by ayoQ 2009-09-29, 11:03 pm

Most people will say Kobe because his scoring is more dynamic. That being said, you can't ignore LeBron's physical attributes. 6'9, damn near 260 pounds with the speed and vision of a point guard. He also has age on his side as well.

The only CLEAR advantage Kobe has on LeBron is shooting and experience/IQ (he's been playing longer). Kobe has been there, done that. Bron is still learning
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Post by y0ungg_m0ney 2009-09-29, 11:04 pm

only advantage LeBron has over Kobe is his physical attributes . put LeBron in Kobe's body he wouldn't be doing none of these things
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 11:06 pm

ayoQ wrote:Most people will say Kobe because his scoring is more dynamic. That being said, you can't ignore LeBron's physical attributes. 6'9, damn near 260 pounds with the speed and vision of a point guard. He also has age on his side as well.

The only CLEAR advantage Kobe has on LeBron is shooting and experience/IQ (he's been playing longer). Kobe has been there, done that. Bron is still learning

but the question is whos better not who will be better
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Post by ayoQ 2009-09-29, 11:07 pm

LeBron is the superior passer, defender, slasher and shot blocker and rebounder (his size advantage over Kobe helps with the last two though, so I don't count those heavily)

Come again?

What's this with switching bodies though? Lol...
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Post by ayoQ 2009-09-29, 11:09 pm

lakersandravens wrote:
ayoQ wrote:Most people will say Kobe because his scoring is more dynamic. That being said, you can't ignore LeBron's physical attributes. 6'9, damn near 260 pounds with the speed and vision of a point guard. He also has age on his side as well.

The only CLEAR advantage Kobe has on LeBron is shooting and experience/IQ (he's been playing longer). Kobe has been there, done that. Bron is still learning

but the question is whos better not who will be better

I'm just laying out my thoughts. I'm not voting because stripping them of their accomplishments and just looking at them as players, I think they are about equal.
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 11:11 pm

ayoQ wrote:
lakersandravens wrote:
ayoQ wrote:Most people will say Kobe because his scoring is more dynamic. That being said, you can't ignore LeBron's physical attributes. 6'9, damn near 260 pounds with the speed and vision of a point guard. He also has age on his side as well.

The only CLEAR advantage Kobe has on LeBron is shooting and experience/IQ (he's been playing longer). Kobe has been there, done that. Bron is still learning

but the question is whos better not who will be better

I'm just laying out my thoughts. I'm not voting because stripping them of their accomplishments and just looking at them as players, I think they are about equal.
ok i completely agree then....

treadstarter u shouldnt have said achievements dont matter because they do
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-29, 11:20 pm

lakersandravens wrote:
ayoQ wrote:
lakersandravens wrote:
ayoQ wrote:Most people will say Kobe because his scoring is more dynamic. That being said, you can't ignore LeBron's physical attributes. 6'9, damn near 260 pounds with the speed and vision of a point guard. He also has age on his side as well.

The only CLEAR advantage Kobe has on LeBron is shooting and experience/IQ (he's been playing longer). Kobe has been there, done that. Bron is still learning

but the question is whos better not who will be better

I'm just laying out my thoughts. I'm not voting because stripping them of their accomplishments and just looking at them as players, I think they are about equal.
ok i completely agree then....

treadstarter u shouldnt have said achievements dont matter because they do


individual achievements matter...but not team achievements...because that comes down to the talent of other players on the team...

im telling you right now if LeBron had Kobe's squad, they would've beat the Celtics in 2008, and won last year too, getting ready for the three-peat for this year...
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Post by Sickology101 2009-09-29, 11:25 pm

Kobe.....
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 11:33 pm

TheFuture23 wrote:
lakersandravens wrote:
ayoQ wrote:
lakersandravens wrote:
ayoQ wrote:Most people will say Kobe because his scoring is more dynamic. That being said, you can't ignore LeBron's physical attributes. 6'9, damn near 260 pounds with the speed and vision of a point guard. He also has age on his side as well.

The only CLEAR advantage Kobe has on LeBron is shooting and experience/IQ (he's been playing longer). Kobe has been there, done that. Bron is still learning

but the question is whos better not who will be better

I'm just laying out my thoughts. I'm not voting because stripping them of their accomplishments and just looking at them as players, I think they are about equal.
ok i completely agree then....

treadstarter u shouldnt have said achievements dont matter because they do


individual achievements matter...but not team achievements...because that comes down to the talent of other players on the team...

im telling you right now if LeBron had Kobe's squad, they would've beat the Celtics in 2008, and won last year too, getting ready for the three-peat for this year...

lets not play the blame game and say lebrons team isnt as good as kobe team....htat doesnt work

and team achievements do matter
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-29, 11:46 pm

no it doesn't....

Robert Horry has more rings than LeBron...
does that make him better?
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 11:50 pm

TheFuture23 wrote:no it doesn't....

Robert Horry has more rings than LeBron...
does that make him better?

no but it counts towards him being better....

Robert horry is a better 3 point shooter and is more clutch than Lebrick

robert horry was an essential part of the teams he got rings with
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-29, 11:55 pm

but he's nowhere near the player LeBron is, be serious....

Brian Scallibrine has more rings than LeBron too...what does that mean?

Individual numbers tell it all...
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-29, 11:58 pm

TheFuture23 wrote:but he's nowhere near the player LeBron is, be serious....

Brian Scallibrine has more rings than LeBron too...what does that mean?

Individual numbers tell it all...

smh future u still havnt learned....if individual numbers told it all wilt chamberlain would be the GOAT by far
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-30, 12:03 am

no he wouldn't...look the era he played in....

but he still gets a consideration nod though....
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Post by lakersandravens 2009-09-30, 12:06 am

what does his era have to do???

so he didnt have a shot clock or offensive 3 in the key....

everybody else has a three point shot so they cancel out....

smh at u
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Post by TheFuture23 2009-09-30, 12:18 am

When I say era,the main thing I mean is TALENT.... the players today are much better than the ones from wilts era
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Post by MyfriendscallmeMrParker 2009-09-30, 12:23 am

Lebron will soon surpass Kobe, but Kobe has to start falling off first...but for now he's still better than Bron.
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Post by rep4qc 2009-09-30, 7:56 am

Sickology101 wrote:Kobe.....
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