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Post by y0ungg_m0ney 2009-09-29, 11:23 pm

forreal, artist such as Jae Millz, Murda Mook, Jin, Serious Jones, Reed Dollaz can't make an album, yet a good song . is it because their not signed to the right labels or something?
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Post by ROFL_GUY 2009-09-29, 11:25 pm

i guess EM the only one who has BATTLE skills that can make GREAT albums...




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you know its the truth....
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Post by ChapterBlack 2009-09-29, 11:25 pm

Label politics. And I can't say I've heard anything stellar from any of the artists you've posted.
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Post by Clayton Bigsby 2009-09-29, 11:26 pm

Cause they don't know how to make good songs. They specialize in metaphors, similes, and personal insults, not good music.
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Post by EscoMosDefShady 2009-09-29, 11:27 pm

Eminem
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Post by 4 life 2009-09-29, 11:28 pm

Two battle rappers should just make an album going at each other on every song, would make it more interesting since thats what they do best
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Post by infamous-wunz 2009-09-29, 11:30 pm

CHeck out serius jones KING ME mixtape it album quallity material homie.
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Post by HST 2009-09-29, 11:30 pm

Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion
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Post by Clayton Bigsby 2009-09-29, 11:31 pm

HST wrote:Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion

But for the most part they can't

None of the freestyle friday or fight klub niggas have made good music
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Post by HST 2009-09-29, 11:32 pm

Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion

But for the most part they can't

None of the freestyle friday or fight klub niggas have made good music

I aint talkin about them---lmao...
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Post by Clayton Bigsby 2009-09-29, 11:35 pm

HST wrote:
Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion

But for the most part they can't

None of the freestyle friday or fight klub niggas have made good music

I aint talkin about them---lmao...

Ok, so what recent battle rappers have found musical success?
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Post by ROFL_GUY 2009-09-29, 11:36 pm

HST wrote:
Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion

But for the most part they can't

None of the freestyle friday or fight klub niggas have made good music

I aint talkin about them---lmao...



you could be the BEST MC in the world dont mean ur a GOOD ARTIST
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Post by Clayton Bigsby 2009-09-29, 11:38 pm

On the average, most battle rappers fail to have the ability to write songs, period
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Post by HST 2009-09-29, 11:39 pm

Clayton Bigsby wrote:On the average, most battle rappers fail to have the ability to write songs, period


what kind of songs do you mean?
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Post by ROFL_GUY 2009-09-29, 11:40 pm

Clayton Bigsby wrote:On the average, most battle rappers fail to have the ability to write songs, period



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Post by HST 2009-09-29, 11:41 pm

Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:
Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion

But for the most part they can't

None of the freestyle friday or fight klub niggas have made good music

I aint talkin about them---lmao...

Ok, so what recent battle rappers have found musical success?

when you say success im guess you mean album sales.....album sales dont equal good music all the time.....and most of the artist I like dont realy sell, but that doesnt take away from their work
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Post by Clayton Bigsby 2009-09-29, 11:45 pm

HST wrote:
Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:
Clayton Bigsby wrote:
HST wrote:Battle rappers albums dont consist of every song going at somebody.....plus the notion that they cant make "albums" or "songs" is just an opinion

But for the most part they can't

None of the freestyle friday or fight klub niggas have made good music

I aint talkin about them---lmao...

Ok, so what recent battle rappers have found musical success?

when you say success im guess you mean album sales.....album sales dont equal good music all the time.....and most of the artist I like dont realy sell, but that doesnt take away from their work

Naw I'm not defining success as sales. I just mean quality music and overall relevance.
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Post by P.Nom 2009-09-29, 11:55 pm

cuz a dope song ain't just about 3 verses and a hook. song structure is one of the most important things about makin a complete joint. since they're used to just spittin long ass verses, it's hard for them to even make a complete 16 without puttin too much or too less into its content-- let alone knowing the right place where to put bridges, comin up with the right flow for the hook, etc.
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Post by MyfriendscallmeMrParker 2009-09-29, 11:58 pm

Clayton Bigsby wrote:On the average, most battle rappers fail to have the ability to write songs, period
this is pretty much it, endless punchlines are cool but they are not the same as a song with a cohesive structure sound and hook
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Post by HST 2009-09-30, 12:00 am

For all of you, this all goes back to the thread I made about Albums I understand that nobody else seems to....lol. We have are own definitions of what I song is supposedly. Theres no answer.
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Post by jkpnyc 2009-09-30, 12:01 am

remy ma made a dope ass album idc what no one says if u aint think it was at least solid then u prolly never heard it
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Post by *locksmith* 2009-09-30, 12:03 am

most of them are not great lyricists that have the capabilities to create a cohesive song . punchlines in every freestyle or premediated lyrics are pretty much randoms lyrics without a content . rappers like papoose and murda mook are punchlines rappers that lack a coherent skill in order to create a song..
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Post by HST 2009-09-30, 12:07 am

*locksmith* wrote:most of them are not great lyricists that have the capabilities to create a cohesive song . punchlines in every freestyle or premediated lyrics are pretty much randoms lyrics without a content . rappers like papoose and murda mook are punchlines rappers that lack a coherent skill in order to create a song..

but see thats why theres no answer for this...because what is your example of song?.....I look at the Law Library songs he made as a few examples of great songs by Papoose.....
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Post by 9th Ave. (Til_Infinity) 2009-09-30, 12:10 am

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Post by *locksmith* 2009-09-30, 12:17 am

HST wrote:
*locksmith* wrote:most of them are not great lyricists that have the capabilities to create a cohesive song . punchlines in every freestyle or premediated lyrics are pretty much randoms lyrics without a content . rappers like papoose and murda mook are punchlines rappers that lack a coherent skill in order to create a song..

but see thats why theres no answer for this...because what is your example of song?.....I look at the Law Library songs he made as a few examples of great songs by Papoose.....


a song is a music composition with a content .. in order for a song to have an coherent structure the lyrics and the flow have to correspond to the topic of the song .. the song don't have to be about politics or have any deep meanings to it . it could be about anything as long as the artist stick to the topic and deliever superb performance .
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