Would Fabolous and Jadakiss be relevant on Def Jam without commercial singles?

I think we all know these days the Labels don't care about skills anymore they just worried about hit records.

So with that being said do you think Fabo and Kiss would see the light of day on Def Jam if they didn't have any commercial singles or would they be treated like Redman and Method man.

I feel like Jeezy is the only one right now on Def Jam that still has success without putting out commercial singles.

they would be blackballed like altantic is trying do lupe

not only would they be irrelevant on def jam but i dont think their careers would have lasted as long as they have(especially fab)

Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

IDK, Jeezy has had a couple of borderline commercial singles like "Vacation" but he manages to do most of his commercial music by was of guest appearances imo.

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

IDK, Jeezy has had a couple of borderline commercial singles like "Vacation" but he manages to do most of his commercial music by was of guest appearances imo.

put on
soul survivor
and then what



...all should be classified as commercial, but yes they did have guest appearances

Def Jam aint relevant....lol....Def Jam used to have a crazy roster...and they fucked it all up.

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

Go Getta
Put On
Vacation

I would all consider at least borderline commercial singles. [b]

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

IDK, Jeezy has had a couple of borderline commercial singles like "Vacation" but he manages to do most of his commercial music by was of guest appearances imo.

When I say commercial I mean more like the songs for the ladies in the clubs....

Jeezy does that when he features on other ppls singles but he
don't ever put any of the tracks he do for the females out as singles.

Here is Fabolous track record for Commercial singles

Make Me Better feat Neyo
Baby Don't Go
Throw It In The Bag
Everything, Everyday, Everywhere

Those are hits.....Jeezy don't make songs like that. His singles don't compare commercially to Fabolous, Jadakiss, and Rick Ross as far as popularity and radio play but hes still relevant and one the most successful without any singles with Khalid on the record, T-Pain Auto tuning, or Ne-yo singing back up.

The closest he came to that was with Go Getta but they came out with that single after The Inspiration did its numbers.

Same with Soul Survivor.

HST wrote:Def Jam aint relevant....lol....Def Jam used to have a crazy roster...and they fucked it all up.

Relevant today is different. Def Jam got a roster full of artist that's still selling records and debuting high on the Billboard charts.

Its not a lot of other labels that got it like that right now.

I'm not a fan of Def Jam and the music they putting out now compared to what they was doing in the 90s.....I still chose Interscope first back then.

But as far as being Relevant Def Jam is very relevant, half of the artist you see and hear with successful selling albums and singles are coming from Def Jam from R&B to Rap.

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

IDK, Jeezy has had a couple of borderline commercial singles like "Vacation" but he manages to do most of his commercial music by was of guest appearances imo.

Jeezy does that when he features on other ppls singles but he
don't ever put any of the tracks he do for the females out as singles.

This is the point I was making. He manages to gain commercial support from women by doing songs like never, ever w/ciara and love in this club w/usher. It's smart if you think about cause he does commercial songs, they just are for his album. He keeps his core audience happy and still gets the females on board.

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

IDK, Jeezy has had a couple of borderline commercial singles like "Vacation" but he manages to do most of his commercial music by was of guest appearances imo.

Jeezy does that when he features on other ppls singles but he
don't ever put any of the tracks he do for the females out as singles.

This is the point I was making. He manages to gain commercial support from women by doing songs like never, ever w/ciara and love in this club w/usher. It's smart if you think about cause he does commercial songs, they just are for his album. He keeps his core audience happy and still gets the females on board.

Nice Post Clayton, I actually never looked at it like that. That's def a smart move.

But let me ask this....do you think Fabolous would have the same success if he followed that method also?

I'm confused by your definition of commercial

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

Clayton Bigsby wrote:

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

MyfriendscallmeMrParker wrote:Would anyone be relevant on Def Jam w/o commercial singles?

Young Jeezy

IDK, Jeezy has had a couple of borderline commercial singles like "Vacation" but he manages to do most of his commercial music by was of guest appearances imo.

Jeezy does that when he features on other ppls singles but he
don't ever put any of the tracks he do for the females out as singles.

This is the point I was making. He manages to gain commercial support from women by doing songs like never, ever w/ciara and love in this club w/usher. It's smart if you think about cause he does commercial songs, they just are for his album. He keeps his core audience happy and still gets the females on board.

Nice Post Clayton, I actually never looked at it like that. That's def a smart move.

But let me ask this....do you think Fabolous would have the same success if he followed that method also?

If Jeezy can do it I don't see why Fab couldn't.

ThaGodDark25 wrote:

HST wrote:Def Jam aint relevant....lol....Def Jam used to have a crazy roster...and they fucked it all up.

Relevant today is different. Def Jam got a roster full of artist that's still selling records and debuting high on the Billboard charts.

Its not a lot of other labels that got it like that right now.

I'm not a fan of Def Jam and the music they putting out now compared to what they was doing in the 90s.....I still chose Interscope first back then.

But as far as being Relevant Def Jam is very relevant, half of the artist you see and hear with successful selling albums and singles are coming from Def Jam from R&B to Rap.

Def Jam only has a few good artists hip hop and R&B.....then they have a bunch of ppl I never heard of...lmao.....like I said they used to have ill roster,,,,now its just a few